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		<title>By: Keli</title>
		<link>http://eclectik-relaxation.com/blog/2009/04/08/un-titled/comment-page-1/#comment-117656</link>
		<dc:creator>Keli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s because you ain&#039;t checking for nobody...

and I hear you, but I still want the title. 

Call me stubborn in that regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s because you ain&#8217;t checking for nobody&#8230;</p>
<p>and I hear you, but I still want the title. </p>
<p>Call me stubborn in that regard.</p>
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		<title>By: wynsters the tigress</title>
		<link>http://eclectik-relaxation.com/blog/2009/04/08/un-titled/comment-page-1/#comment-117526</link>
		<dc:creator>wynsters the tigress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting insight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting insight.</p>
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		<title>By: eclectik</title>
		<link>http://eclectik-relaxation.com/blog/2009/04/08/un-titled/comment-page-1/#comment-117511</link>
		<dc:creator>eclectik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faith-e

Get over here and lemme give you a title</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faith-e</p>
<p>Get over here and lemme give you a title</p>
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		<title>By: faithw/anE</title>
		<link>http://eclectik-relaxation.com/blog/2009/04/08/un-titled/comment-page-1/#comment-117508</link>
		<dc:creator>faithw/anE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly titles are just a polite way of saying &quot;this is mine keep away&quot;. The importance of the title really just depends on the person. Some need a title in a relationship to keep them in check. And if that is the case maybe they shouldnt be in a &quot;committed&quot; relationship anyway. I&#039;m with E on this, a title doesn&#039;t magically make everythinng better. If anything it makes more drama because now there are added expectations that both parties may not be prepared for. 
I think women get caught up in what everyone else will think if we don&#039;t have a title as if we are wasting our time with a man if he hasn&#039;t started calling us &quot;his&quot;. However I think we have also over looked the fact that once a man is really into a woman he will give a woman that title without any threats or provoking from her part because men are selfish and once they find someone they want they try and make sure everyone knows that he has laid his claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly titles are just a polite way of saying &#8220;this is mine keep away&#8221;. The importance of the title really just depends on the person. Some need a title in a relationship to keep them in check. And if that is the case maybe they shouldnt be in a &#8220;committed&#8221; relationship anyway. I&#8217;m with E on this, a title doesn&#8217;t magically make everythinng better. If anything it makes more drama because now there are added expectations that both parties may not be prepared for.<br />
I think women get caught up in what everyone else will think if we don&#8217;t have a title as if we are wasting our time with a man if he hasn&#8217;t started calling us &#8220;his&#8221;. However I think we have also over looked the fact that once a man is really into a woman he will give a woman that title without any threats or provoking from her part because men are selfish and once they find someone they want they try and make sure everyone knows that he has laid his claim.</p>
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		<title>By: eclectik</title>
		<link>http://eclectik-relaxation.com/blog/2009/04/08/un-titled/comment-page-1/#comment-117507</link>
		<dc:creator>eclectik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again. 

The point isn&#039;t that the woman needs a title
Why they need the title or why the title isn&#039;t welcome by some men. 

The point or message is that in a relationship between two people that label has no effect and is meaningless as far as the individuals and how they feel/relate to/treat each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again. </p>
<p>The point isn&#8217;t that the woman needs a title<br />
Why they need the title or why the title isn&#8217;t welcome by some men. </p>
<p>The point or message is that in a relationship between two people that label has no effect and is meaningless as far as the individuals and how they feel/relate to/treat each other.</p>
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		<title>By: wahoo4uva</title>
		<link>http://eclectik-relaxation.com/blog/2009/04/08/un-titled/comment-page-1/#comment-117506</link>
		<dc:creator>wahoo4uva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*SIGH*

This debate just...frustrates the hell outta me.  E, your points are all valid.  Yet they are neither more nor less valid than the opinion that the title matters.  That being said, I don&#039;t see a compromise or middle ground on something like this.  

My opinion is this:  the idea of commitment freaks men out.  They are TERRIFIED of it.  And reluctance to the title is one of the many ways that this fear manifests itself.  Right, wrong, or indifferent.

OK, so, yeah...women should step outside of themselves and their own heads sometimes -- and so should men.  If a woman is willing to give you everything you need in a relationship, and is satisfying those needs well -- then why not give her what she needs in return?  If she needs the title, you can give it, and it&#039;s not going to kill you, then why not satisfy that need for her and just do it if you care enough about her?  That&#039;s what&#039;s involved in relationships -- compromising on things you normally wouldn&#039;t for the sake of wanting your beloved to feel at ease and have peace of mind in the relationship.  

If I&#039;m able to do something for a significant other, and it&#039;s not unreasonable, and I know it will make them happy -- I do it.  And if I don&#039;t, it comes down to just being unwilling to do it, for whatever reason.  It&#039;s as simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*SIGH*</p>
<p>This debate just&#8230;frustrates the hell outta me.  E, your points are all valid.  Yet they are neither more nor less valid than the opinion that the title matters.  That being said, I don&#8217;t see a compromise or middle ground on something like this.  </p>
<p>My opinion is this:  the idea of commitment freaks men out.  They are TERRIFIED of it.  And reluctance to the title is one of the many ways that this fear manifests itself.  Right, wrong, or indifferent.</p>
<p>OK, so, yeah&#8230;women should step outside of themselves and their own heads sometimes &#8212; and so should men.  If a woman is willing to give you everything you need in a relationship, and is satisfying those needs well &#8212; then why not give her what she needs in return?  If she needs the title, you can give it, and it&#8217;s not going to kill you, then why not satisfy that need for her and just do it if you care enough about her?  That&#8217;s what&#8217;s involved in relationships &#8212; compromising on things you normally wouldn&#8217;t for the sake of wanting your beloved to feel at ease and have peace of mind in the relationship.  </p>
<p>If I&#8217;m able to do something for a significant other, and it&#8217;s not unreasonable, and I know it will make them happy &#8212; I do it.  And if I don&#8217;t, it comes down to just being unwilling to do it, for whatever reason.  It&#8217;s as simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: JustB</title>
		<link>http://eclectik-relaxation.com/blog/2009/04/08/un-titled/comment-page-1/#comment-117463</link>
		<dc:creator>JustB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK yes Steve Harvey is not the God of relationships and his book is overrated, but it&#039;s still true.

...If I can get that from someone and they dont want to call me a certain word…me getting upset or mad or wanting to not deal with them is beyond idiotic...

No every man is not the same, but If someone is gonna invest this much into you why wouldn&#039;t they wanna give you a title, that&#039;s idiotic. It doesn&#039;t happen like that. 

...Another person could shower someone with titles and labels and cheat or treat the person like shit…what good was the title then?

I already said at the end of the day the actions make a relationship, but I maintain that both things are important. The way she is treated and the title.

We could go back and forth all day. I will just agree to disagree on this one. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK yes Steve Harvey is not the God of relationships and his book is overrated, but it&#8217;s still true.</p>
<p>&#8230;If I can get that from someone and they dont want to call me a certain word…me getting upset or mad or wanting to not deal with them is beyond idiotic&#8230;</p>
<p>No every man is not the same, but If someone is gonna invest this much into you why wouldn&#8217;t they wanna give you a title, that&#8217;s idiotic. It doesn&#8217;t happen like that. </p>
<p>&#8230;Another person could shower someone with titles and labels and cheat or treat the person like shit…what good was the title then?</p>
<p>I already said at the end of the day the actions make a relationship, but I maintain that both things are important. The way she is treated and the title.</p>
<p>We could go back and forth all day. I will just agree to disagree on this one. <img src='http://eclectik-relaxation.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: eclectik</title>
		<link>http://eclectik-relaxation.com/blog/2009/04/08/un-titled/comment-page-1/#comment-117461</link>
		<dc:creator>eclectik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alls im saying is that the &quot;label&quot; and &quot;title&quot;
is a mental hurdle that the woman has and it has nothing to do with how two people relate to each other.

The other point is, all men are not the same...women get in the habit of treating new men like the last...Im extra different

Again:
Trust, Honor, respect, Fidelity, Good communication, Good Sex, Laughs, shared wants and passions

If I can get that from someone and they dont want to call me a certain word...me getting upset or mad or wanting to not deal with them is beyond idiotic

Another person could shower someone with titles and labels and cheat or treat the person like shit...what good was the title then?

All people are different but one thing is the same...the &quot;label&quot; has nothing to do with the relationship between two people

it has nothing to do with staying together, has nothing to do with breaking up


And Steve Harvey needs to stick to the jokes
...women and men need to get advice from themselves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alls im saying is that the &#8220;label&#8221; and &#8220;title&#8221;<br />
is a mental hurdle that the woman has and it has nothing to do with how two people relate to each other.</p>
<p>The other point is, all men are not the same&#8230;women get in the habit of treating new men like the last&#8230;Im extra different</p>
<p>Again:<br />
Trust, Honor, respect, Fidelity, Good communication, Good Sex, Laughs, shared wants and passions</p>
<p>If I can get that from someone and they dont want to call me a certain word&#8230;me getting upset or mad or wanting to not deal with them is beyond idiotic</p>
<p>Another person could shower someone with titles and labels and cheat or treat the person like shit&#8230;what good was the title then?</p>
<p>All people are different but one thing is the same&#8230;the &#8220;label&#8221; has nothing to do with the relationship between two people</p>
<p>it has nothing to do with staying together, has nothing to do with breaking up</p>
<p>And Steve Harvey needs to stick to the jokes<br />
&#8230;women and men need to get advice from themselves</p>
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		<title>By: JustB</title>
		<link>http://eclectik-relaxation.com/blog/2009/04/08/un-titled/comment-page-1/#comment-117460</link>
		<dc:creator>JustB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not true, there is a level of respect, in most cases, that people will give her if it is known that she is your girlfriend, and more so if she is your wife. You have to understand that as just a fact. 

It doesn&#039;t make it true cause he said it, but b/c it is true.  Every man is not on the up and up, and use not giving a woman a label as a way to weasel out of a commitment. I have known plenty of guys who treat their women like the are the world when they are together. All 5 or 6 of them. 

The way you treat her is very important, but so is the label. But not we get don&#039;t to the real problem. You think that the label is gonna change the way that you guys interact. That&#039;s where communication comes in. It&#039;s the fact that they are comfortable with each other, not the label that makes them get lazy. But if you talk it out I am sure that&#039;s a situation that can be easily rectified with a few exciting dates or etc.

Favorite Quote from Love Jones: When people say they are bored in a relationship it&#039;s just b/c they have exhausted the possibilities...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not true, there is a level of respect, in most cases, that people will give her if it is known that she is your girlfriend, and more so if she is your wife. You have to understand that as just a fact. </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t make it true cause he said it, but b/c it is true.  Every man is not on the up and up, and use not giving a woman a label as a way to weasel out of a commitment. I have known plenty of guys who treat their women like the are the world when they are together. All 5 or 6 of them. </p>
<p>The way you treat her is very important, but so is the label. But not we get don&#8217;t to the real problem. You think that the label is gonna change the way that you guys interact. That&#8217;s where communication comes in. It&#8217;s the fact that they are comfortable with each other, not the label that makes them get lazy. But if you talk it out I am sure that&#8217;s a situation that can be easily rectified with a few exciting dates or etc.</p>
<p>Favorite Quote from Love Jones: When people say they are bored in a relationship it&#8217;s just b/c they have exhausted the possibilities&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: msdailey</title>
		<link>http://eclectik-relaxation.com/blog/2009/04/08/un-titled/comment-page-1/#comment-117459</link>
		<dc:creator>msdailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the day I start taking relationship advice from Steve Harvey is the day I chalk it all up
…just cuz HE said that doesnt make it true lol

OMG - AMEN, AMEN, AMEN

like who died and gave him a pen (an authority) I thinks NOT!

I dont think Im really that oppose to his book what hes saying or him, I think my problem is moreso with these women who act like they didnt have a clue (or a vowel) before the book came out.

Really??!! Whatevs

lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the day I start taking relationship advice from Steve Harvey is the day I chalk it all up<br />
…just cuz HE said that doesnt make it true lol</p>
<p>OMG &#8211; AMEN, AMEN, AMEN</p>
<p>like who died and gave him a pen (an authority) I thinks NOT!</p>
<p>I dont think Im really that oppose to his book what hes saying or him, I think my problem is moreso with these women who act like they didnt have a clue (or a vowel) before the book came out.</p>
<p>Really??!! Whatevs</p>
<p>lol</p>
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		<title>By: eclectik</title>
		<link>http://eclectik-relaxation.com/blog/2009/04/08/un-titled/comment-page-1/#comment-117457</link>
		<dc:creator>eclectik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 23:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still dont get into this &quot;possession&quot; my girl-my woman stuff...

If I introduce Keisha as my girl, woman, wife, angel face...people will try and talk to her if they want...she will decide to talk to them if she wants

the day I start taking relationship advice from Steve Harvey is the day I chalk it all up
...just cuz HE said that doesnt make it true lol

I agree giving a label IS an action
But treating her like shes the most important person is a WAY more important action.

People get titles and get lazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still dont get into this &#8220;possession&#8221; my girl-my woman stuff&#8230;</p>
<p>If I introduce Keisha as my girl, woman, wife, angel face&#8230;people will try and talk to her if they want&#8230;she will decide to talk to them if she wants</p>
<p>the day I start taking relationship advice from Steve Harvey is the day I chalk it all up<br />
&#8230;just cuz HE said that doesnt make it true lol</p>
<p>I agree giving a label IS an action<br />
But treating her like shes the most important person is a WAY more important action.</p>
<p>People get titles and get lazy.</p>
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		<title>By: JustB</title>
		<link>http://eclectik-relaxation.com/blog/2009/04/08/un-titled/comment-page-1/#comment-117453</link>
		<dc:creator>JustB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I didn&#039;t answer you other question about divorce. I think divorce was put into place for extreme situations, and is vastly over used in today&#039;s society. But just because someone else got married for the wrong reasons doesn&#039;t mean you shouldn&#039;t b/c you think your love is greater or better than that. It&#039;s not really about why other people get divorced but about what you and your wife believe about your own personal commitment to each other. 

OK, yes I admit that it makes the woman feel more comfortable, and it is how you are treated in the relationship that should determine whether you stay or leave. But what I think you are missing is that giving her a label is an action, that she should also be paying attention to. Sorry to be cliche&#039; but Steve Harvey did say that how a man introduces you says alot about your place in his life. Say we go to a cookout and your girl attend a party and you introduce her as &quot;Keisha&quot;. If someone, maybe even one of your boys tries to talk to her you can&#039;t get upset, b/c there was no initial understanding that she was your girl when you introduced her. No she has to reject him, only if she&#039;s not feeling him(cause she&#039;s not your girl right), and you get upset(if you care), etc. etc. Why put yourself in a position to go with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I didn&#8217;t answer you other question about divorce. I think divorce was put into place for extreme situations, and is vastly over used in today&#8217;s society. But just because someone else got married for the wrong reasons doesn&#8217;t mean you shouldn&#8217;t b/c you think your love is greater or better than that. It&#8217;s not really about why other people get divorced but about what you and your wife believe about your own personal commitment to each other. </p>
<p>OK, yes I admit that it makes the woman feel more comfortable, and it is how you are treated in the relationship that should determine whether you stay or leave. But what I think you are missing is that giving her a label is an action, that she should also be paying attention to. Sorry to be cliche&#8217; but Steve Harvey did say that how a man introduces you says alot about your place in his life. Say we go to a cookout and your girl attend a party and you introduce her as &#8220;Keisha&#8221;. If someone, maybe even one of your boys tries to talk to her you can&#8217;t get upset, b/c there was no initial understanding that she was your girl when you introduced her. No she has to reject him, only if she&#8217;s not feeling him(cause she&#8217;s not your girl right), and you get upset(if you care), etc. etc. Why put yourself in a position to go with that?</p>
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		<title>By: eclectik</title>
		<link>http://eclectik-relaxation.com/blog/2009/04/08/un-titled/comment-page-1/#comment-117451</link>
		<dc:creator>eclectik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nina: I overthink everything
Meh, you break up with me over the post...I move on.

JustB: I did answer that...right before the unicorn picture

The other question is, what does telling the world have to do with my relationship?
I did type its stubborness...and not that I oppose them but can a woman admit that they dont really mean anything and are in place to make the woman feel better.

Walking away is walking away...that makes no sense
and again what is &quot;Real commitment&quot;

Re-read the post

If I give everything that a woman asks for in a relationship why does a label make it null and void?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nina: I overthink everything<br />
Meh, you break up with me over the post&#8230;I move on.</p>
<p>JustB: I did answer that&#8230;right before the unicorn picture</p>
<p>The other question is, what does telling the world have to do with my relationship?<br />
I did type its stubborness&#8230;and not that I oppose them but can a woman admit that they dont really mean anything and are in place to make the woman feel better.</p>
<p>Walking away is walking away&#8230;that makes no sense<br />
and again what is &#8220;Real commitment&#8221;</p>
<p>Re-read the post</p>
<p>If I give everything that a woman asks for in a relationship why does a label make it null and void?</p>
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		<title>By: JustB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right it does depend on the people, but why wouldn&#039;t you want to claim the one you love. Introduce her and let the world know she&#039;s yours. My big question to you that I don&#039;t think you answered is why are you so oppose to the labels? It&#039;s almost like you don&#039;t want them only b/c you know women want them. Your need not to be labled seems equal to the woman&#039;s need to define the relationship, and those in glass houses... I just think there are bigger things to worry about in a relationship, and if it is so trivial to you why not just commit, and give her what she needs to feel secure?

Personally I think there is something else there, maybe you know it&#039;s easier to walk away when there is no real commitment???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right it does depend on the people, but why wouldn&#8217;t you want to claim the one you love. Introduce her and let the world know she&#8217;s yours. My big question to you that I don&#8217;t think you answered is why are you so oppose to the labels? It&#8217;s almost like you don&#8217;t want them only b/c you know women want them. Your need not to be labled seems equal to the woman&#8217;s need to define the relationship, and those in glass houses&#8230; I just think there are bigger things to worry about in a relationship, and if it is so trivial to you why not just commit, and give her what she needs to feel secure?</p>
<p>Personally I think there is something else there, maybe you know it&#8217;s easier to walk away when there is no real commitment???</p>
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		<title>By: NinaMM</title>
		<link>http://eclectik-relaxation.com/blog/2009/04/08/un-titled/comment-page-1/#comment-117449</link>
		<dc:creator>NinaMM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You overthunk this.  If you were my boyfriend, I&#039;d fuck around and break up with you over this post just cuz you thought about the shit too long.  

Guess that&#039;s why I&#039;M single.  :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You overthunk this.  If you were my boyfriend, I&#8217;d fuck around and break up with you over this post just cuz you thought about the shit too long.  </p>
<p>Guess that&#8217;s why I&#8217;M single.  <img src='http://eclectik-relaxation.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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